hi all,

we have finally reached home on monday afternoon. the trip was great although we could not complete 1 important de-tour. we did not manage to get around dieng nor did we shoot the magnificent sunrise at dieng.

below is my travelogue. correct me if i missed something… :-). pix will follow soon.

day 0.
- packed things before 7 pm.
- managed to get 2 tix for chelsea - malaysia match @ shah alam stadium
- car broke down, couldnt start due to weak battery. somebody helped to push the car.
- reach home by 11.30 pm
- double checked backpack
- went to zani house by midnight

day 1.
- zani sent me to airport by 12++ am
- met todd at LCCT before 1 am and we talked while waiting for others to arrive
- met dr j and the company at 4.30 am, waje arrived somewhere around that time
- everybody checked in at 5 am, lotsa ppl qeueing…
- checked in at 5.50 am and went for subuh prayer.
- flight depart at around 6.50 am, wonderful sunrise during departure
- arrived at solo 8.20 am. kabul and memeng were there, with theh L200 old kia van…uhhhh. ( i want to castrate kabul for this )
- went to boyolali to catch the much awaited brunch at soto mpok giyem. we got lost. after asking around, we finally found out that there are 2 mbok giyem warungs. and we brunch at the other branch and it tastes the same minus the jawa orchestra plus the pretty waitress @ cashier…hehehehhe
- proceed to dieng via selo. found out that the van is not good enough for dieng. diverted to brobodur.
- took a lot of pictures of brobodur. didnt buy souvenir.
- stop by cartenz to buy outdoor gear / equipment. the chicks are actually not bad at all. todd bought a lot of gears and had been given a membership card by a cewek. “hilang akal tul cewek tuh”
- dinner at padang restaurant. nice dinner but i think, it was overpriced. 400 ++ k is not a nice number.
- went to jogja to overnight. walked in behind malioboro and found a decent losmen to stay.

day 2.
- wake up at 430. dr ali woke up early and managed to get sunrise at malioboro.
- breakfast at a minang restaurant. cheap, some had mee soup, some had rice with chicken and stuffs.
- shopping and street shooting @ malioboro until 11.30am
- by 12 noon, checked out from losmen and went straight to dieng.
- lunch @ ___ . had soto again. not as good as mpok giyem but okeee laaahhh.
- arrived at dieng after maghrib. had dinner @ telaga warna. The best part is met with the tour guide of dieng. bought a marvellous pamplet and some had purwaceng….hehehe. i repeat…PURWACENG.
- decided to cancel sunrise shooting in order to catch up with mount lawu climbing
- went to selo to overnight. arrived at selo around 12 midnight. found a homestay for Rp 200k but without hot shower and drinks.

day 3.
- wonderful sunrise at selo, marvellous mount merapi view. everybody is enjoying the early morning photo shoot out.
- had breakfast at the same stall in new selo ( as in feb 2008 ). had mie sedap.
- checked out from homestay at 8.30 am and proceed to solo to pick up arey.
- arey flight delayed. we arrived at the same time as his @ 10.30 am.
- proceed to lawu. arrived at lawu around 2.00 pm. had lunch. everybody has nasgor - nasi goreng @ friend rice. it was ok.
- started trekking at 3 pm. wonderful scenery of the crops planted on the way up using cemoro sewu route.
- passed first basecamp, the warung had already closed.
- arrived at 3rd basecamp when night falls in
- first group reached sendang drajat basecamp ( camp 5 ) at 9 pm ( arey, todd, waje, culas and mufti ). They moved into another basecamp which had shelter.
- 2nd group reached sendang drajat basecamp ( camp 5 ) at 11 pm. ( me, dr j, and .. whats the name of ur porter dr j? ) . we hoped in from one shelter to another to find the first group. they were in the 3rd shelter. had dinner of pecel and telur goreng ( fried egg ). sleep after solat isya’.
- last group reached sendang drajat basecamp ( camp 5 ) at 2 am. sardin came later. kabul fainted and only reached sendang drajat at 4 am. they had to sleep without tent. the temprature was around 5 degrees celcius and they barely had a sleep.

day 4.
- journey to summit started at 5 am. at 530 am we reached summit.
- the view was spectacular. viewed mount semeru, mount merapi, and mount merbabu from a distance.
- 3rd group reached summit at 6 ++ am. congrats to dr ali, om jasni and mas sani. kabul and sardin were with them.
- descend to basecamp some minutes before 9am. packed up the back packs and descent to cemoro kandang at 10 am.
- the view was marvellous as we passed the great savannah before pos 4.
- the first group to reached cemoro kandang at 2 pm. I was with the 3rd group to reach cemoro kandang at 3 pm. last group, dr ali and arey arrived 20 minutes later. we had lunch at the stall opposite cemoro kandang basecamp. i had rica-rica while om jasni had nasgor.
- proceed to cemoro sewu basecamp to take a bath, repack our things. no heater, and the bath water was freezing cold. 
- proceed to bromo after maghrib prayer.
- had dinner at a losmen somewhere around telaga sarangan at 7 pm. i had gado - gado. it is actually what we call rojak in malaysia but with kerupuk.
- continue to malang via highway. memeng was driving very fast. hueheuhe. thank god we were safe.
- stop over at purwosari. memeng was badly sleepy. bought 6 energizer batteries for rp 22k. that is quite a bargain …. i wish i could buy the whole energizer batteries and bring em back

day 5.
- reached penanjakan gate at 2++ am. repacked and changed our clothing 
- lepaks and proceed to penanjakan via 2 vg 40 at rp 600k.
- arrived at penanjakan at 4 am. had tea with the rest of the team.
- proceed to viewing area at 4.30 am. everybody was finding the best spot to shoot bromo and sunrise.
- sunrised at 5 am. marvellous. captured lotsa photos. i was separated from the group. prayed at 535 am.
- continue shooting after that.
- proceed to bromo before 7 am.
- crazily shooting peoples and horses. i decided not to use horse to reach bromo. me, arey and todd walked to bromo. i hire horse to return to the jeep after climbing down from bromo.
- the weather was marvellous and we decided to go to the savannah for an extra of 300k. stopped at the savannah and the sea of sand.
- return to penanjakan gate at around 10 am. repacked and changed our clothing before proceeding to surabaya at 11 am/noon. WE HAVENT HAD OUR BREAKFAST YET.
- had our lunch somewhere after/before pesuruan. i think that was around 3 pm. we had bakso. a big meatball with a very tiny amount of mee hoon. we were starving……
- continue to surabaya via toll route. “eh they got jalan toll jugak ke”…hehehehe
- reached juanda area’s around 5 pm. checked in at new cahaya hotel. The hotel is not bad at all. paid rp 670k for 3 rooms for 9 persons. Good facility, hot water, hot shower, aircond and breakast too.
- dinner after maghrib at the nearby ibu nuraini restaurant. had a really great dinner. most had the much anticipated bebek goreng ( fried duck ) and cigiyur rujak. i had kambing gulai.
- van roof was damaged. due to this, we couldnt sightseing at surabaya. we went to sleep instead.

day 6.
- woke up at 4 am. packed up things.
- subuh at 5 am. breakfast at 6 am. at 630 we proceeded to juanda airport.
- the airport tax is around 150k. bought some ‘kek lapis legit’ at the airport and 1 samarinda sarong. not cheap, but it fulfills my mother wish.
- depart at 845 am. arrived around noon at lcct. good bye everybody. cya in dieng or rinjani.

General Information:

1. date: from 30/7/2008 until 4/8/2008
2. no of days: 6 days
3. flight: lcct-solo: ak996, 655 am, 30/7/2008 ; surabaya-lcct: qz 7613, 835 am, 4/8/2008
4. total participants: 9
5. CHANGE OF ITENARIES: please take not that the itenaries have changed. This is to accomodate Mas Arey late arrival on the 31st at Jogja. We regret that we could not proceed to Ijen. Instead, we will replace ijen with The highland of Dieng ( Dataran tinggi Dieng ). Kelud is an option, if we have time, we will take half an hour detour at kelud.
6. exhange rate: rm 355 : 1 juta rupiah, please bring sufficient money. Sometimes it is better to change your currency at malioboro, we can get better rate overthere. will show you the ‘toko’. The chick is not bad either…hahaha. — updated: kabul managed to get today’s exchange rate: rm 350 : 1 juta rupiah. considering that this rate does not change much next week, we can save between rm 5 to rm 30 every 1 million rupiah. got it skool children? FYI, exchange rate in penang is rm 385 for 1 mill, and in shah alam rm 360 every 1 mill. SO…LU PIKIR LA SENDIRI NABIL…
7. please take note that, souvenir shopping will take place at malioboro, jogjakarta. not at surabaya.

participants:

1. remi
2. arey
3. todd
4. jamal
5. ali
6. jasni
7. waje
8. sani
9. nizam

friendly reminder ( especially to WAJE )

1. please be at the airport no later than 5 am.
2. DO NOT LEAVE BEHIND YOUR MEDICATION IF ANY. I only prepare general medication needs.
3. Dr Jamal and Mas Arey will bring 2 tents of 2 man capacity
4. please do not forget your PASSPORT.
5. i will email the tix slip to those who bought the ticket thru me. Others are encouraged to email their tix slips to me at: remiglobal@gmail.com as i will compile the tix together.
6. please bring sweater @ jumper @ pullover and sleeping bag. It is also advisable to have sleeping matress.
7. remi, please do not forget your battery charger. You are the only canon survivor here…hahaha.
8. do not forget to bring tons of batteries and memory cards.
9. please read the general guideline at http://ecotravelogue.com/2008/04/08/lawu-bromo-ijen-preparation-check-list/

chelsea vs malaysia

1. we know that this match will happen on the 29th of July. for those with Dr. Jamal, if you want to proceed to shah alam, i strongly advise you to reach shah alam before 6 or after 9 pm. i can guarantee a heavy traffic for this match.
2. for those who watch, good luck.

itenaries

1. please view the pose before: http://ecotravelogue.com/2008/07/25/dieng-lawu-bromo-finalized-itenaries/

that’s all for now, see ya at the airport.

 remi

ITENARIES UPDATED ( time follows WIB ) 

Day 1 - 30th July (Wed)
0825 - ETA at Solo Airport. Welcome to Indonesia….
0845 - 1500 - Travel to Wonosobo, then to Dieng Plateau (2000m absl). 
                       - Breakfast / Brunch at Soto Mpok Giyem, in front of Sekolah Dasar Boyolali
                       - cant wait for the breakfast….nyum nyum
1500 - 1730 - arrived at dieng, solat jama’ zohor-asar and start with Photo shooting
1730 -  1815 - setting up tent / dinner @ nearby warung
1830 -           - maghrib - isyak jama’. Bisa ngobrol2 sampai subuh bapak2.

Day 2 - 31st July (Thu)
0300 - 0430 - sunrise shooting @ dieng
0430 - 0530 - solat subuh 
0700 - 1000 - Travel to Magelang, breakfast
1000 - 1300 - Visit Borobudur
1300 - 1600 - Travel to Jogja, lunch
1600 - 1700 - Pickup Arey at the airport
1700 - 2000 - Free & easy (jalan2 bandar Joqja somewhere along malioboro), dinner ( Pecelele, gudeg with nice entertainment along lesehan umum @ malioboro ). *mas arey pingin naik kereta kuda. can buy good outdoor equipment here, at least 2 outdoor shop located along this road
2200 -          - proceed to kaliurang, sleep at local resthouse near Merapi Southern Entrance & rest. can take this oppurtunity to recharge ur batteries.

Day 3 - 1st August (Fri)
0430 -          subuh, morning shooting…i hope villagers at the southern crater is as friendly as in Selo.
0800 - 1200 - Travel to Malang Madiun Magetan (Basecamp Cemoro Sewu)
1200 - 1400 - Lunch, packing (should carry essential items only…er, what’s not essential? Yelar, things like charger, power adapter etc)
1400 - 2000 - Trekking Mount lawu (6 jam tuh!!)
2000 - Rest at Sendang Drajat Camp

Day 4 - 2nd August (Sat)
0500 - 0600 - Climb the summit
0600 - 0700 - At the summit (shoot sunrise beb….. and solat Subuh jangan lupa. Then breakfast)
0700 - 1300 - Descend to basecamp
1300 - 1500 - Rest a bit, lunch, packing again, if we have time, we go mandi2 at the waterfall.
1500 - 2200 - Travel from Sarangan to Malang & to Bromo. if we are a bit early, we can pass through kelud, and shoot for 30-45 min. InsyaAllah.
2200 - Dine & proceed to penanjakan

Day 5 - 3rd August (Sun)
0400 - 0700 - Should be at Penanjakan to shoot sunrise!! breakfast after this.
0700 - 1200 - To Bromo crater
1200 - 1400 - Back to Malang. lunch
1400 - 1700 - Proceed to surabaya. Kalau ada rezeki, we will get to pass Apple orchards and tea fields. wanna have some tea?
2000 -            dinner at surabaya. if we have a lot of money, mas arey will recommend a good place to eat.

Day 6 - 4th August (Mon)
0700 - 0800 - Drive to airport
0835 - Balik!!! - makan roti canai atas flight at your expense.

dear participants,

we only have less than 3 weeks before this project will be started. bare in mind that you have to start the physical training now. ( i’m giving myself a reminder…hehehe, me getting fatter and fatter everyday )

 although kaboool says that lawu is not tough, i highly recommend that you at least walk around some football field within your vicinity; for at least 3 rounds everyday to prepare your body for this kind of trip.

as usual, your mental must be fit. We have to stay positive at all time. Although may be some of us are not trekkers, we have to keep in mind the “Malaysia Boleh” spirit. Indonesia has recently launched something similar to “malaysia boleh”. Their tagline is ”Indonesia BISA”. Makanya, bapak-bapak yang ga bisa sebut “Malaysia Boleh”, bisa nyebut, “Malaysia BISA”…hehehe

as for the equipment, you can always refer to this post http://ecotravelogue.com/2008/04/08/lawu-bromo-ijen-preparation-check-list/

i will finalize the ration list in 1 week time. Most probably, we may not need to bring a lot of ration. kabool has confirmed that almost every post has WARONG MAKAN or simply food stall in lawu.

i would like to warn that, please do not take this trip for granted. Although it is somewhat a leisurely trip, an early preparation is always advised. The most important thing is your passport, make sure it is still valid and not within 6 months of compulsory renewing period.

 to be continued….

mas arey just came back from the exhausting 6 summits in a row in West Java, Indonesia.

not sure about the other 2 summits, but i heard that they have went to mount bromo, mount semeru, mount arjuno and mount weilerang.

and?mas arey suddenly suggested that we change the trip from kawah ijen to gunung kelud. but…from the pix found here

but it seems that…it is not that kicking… what do you think .. ijen or kelud?

related sources:

http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunung_Kelut

http://www.eastjava.com/tourism/kediri/kelud.html

http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/volcano-tours/kelud/1107/lava_dome.html?&photo=16&cHash=3965e27a5a

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Popular Mountains and Peaks Nationwide

(Luzon)
 1. Mt Banahaw
 2. Mt Mayon
 3. Mt Makiling
 4. Mt Pinatubo
 5. Mt San Cristobal
 6. Mt Maculot
 7. Mt Mantalingajan

(Visayas)
 1. Mt Madja-as
 2. Mt Cuernos de Negros (Talinis)
 3. Mt Mandalagan
 4. Mt Pangasugan
 5. Mt Manunggal

(Mindanao)
 1. Mt Kitanglad
 2. Mt Candalaga
 3. Mt Dulang-Dulang
 4. Mt Hibok-Hibok
 5. Mt Malindang
 6. Mt Sumagaya
 7. Mt Lumot

Top-5 Important National MountaineeringDestination (INMD)

1.) Mt Apo - the highest in Mindanao? and the Philippines
2.) Mt Pulog - the highest in Luzon
3.) Mt Kanla-on - the highest in the Visayas
4.) Mt Halcon - regarded as the most hazardous
5.) Mt Guiting-Guiting - regarded as the most difficult to climb

The Philippine’s Highest Mountains

(The 9,000-footers)

       Mountain              Elevation (ft)            Range                           Island
1. Mt Apo                          9689                                                       Mindanao
2. Mt Dulang-Dulang       9637                  Kitanglad                    Mindanao 
3. Mt Pulog                        9610                 Cordillera                    Luzon
4. Mt Kitanglad                 9509                 Kitanglad                    Mindanao
5. Mt Tabayac                   9322                 Cordillera                    Luzon
6. Mt Piapayungan           9233                                                      Mindanao

(The 8,000-footers)

7. Mt Maagnaw                 8994                 Kitanglad                     Mindanao
8. Mt Singakalca               8915                 Cordillera                     Luzon
9. Mt Amuyao                   8863                 Cordillera                     Luzon
10. Mt Kapiligan               8758                 Cordillera                     Luzon
11. Mt Cawit                      8754                 Cordillera                     Luzon
12. Mt Abao                       8731                 Cordillera                     Luzon
13. Mt Osdung                  8584                 Cordillera                     Luzon
14. Mt Lumuluyaw           8567                 Cordillera                     Luzon
15. Mt Halcon                    8482                                                       Mindoro
16. Mt Alchanon                8449                Cordillera                     Luzon
17. Mt Cauitan                  8426                 Cordillera                     Luzon
18. Mt Baco                       8161                                                       Mindoro
19. Mt Kanla-on                8085                                                      Negros
20. Mt Bangbanglang       8082                Cordillera                    Luzon
21. Mt Pawoi                     8056                 Cordillera                    Luzon
22. Mt Sapacoy                 8056                Cordillera                     Luzon         

so lets pack our bags and fly away.?

source:

http://www.geocities.com/siba_ph/PhilPeaks.html

Just came back from East Java for a short trip covering Surabaya, Sidorajo, Batu (Apple Farm (Argowista), Prigen Safari), Bromo & Ijen. Day 1 from Surabaya to Prigen, staying at Batu. Day 2 travelling from Batu to Bromo. Stayed at Camara Indah (Tel : 0335541019), Cemara Lawang, a room facing the magnificent Batok & Bromo for Rp400,000 per night with breakfast and hot shower & TV. Their room range from Rp50,000 to Rp400,000 but will increase significantly during the peak season. The entrace fee to Penanjakan view point & Bromo cost Rp 25,000; Jeep rental Rp75,000; Jacket rental Rp30,000 if you want to hire the entire jeep it will cost you Rp355,000.

Try to arrive at Camara Lawang as early as possible to book the jeep up to the higher view poing at Penanjakan. Start your journey at 4am for the sunrise instead of 3am as the sun rises around 5:15am. There are stalls that sells food and drink at the view point. And the view point were swarming with tourists as well as vendors selling postcards, camera batteries etc. When you arrive at the carpark of Bromo, the local with try their best to persuade you to ride their pony for the short walk to the bottom of the crater. They start their price at Rp50,000 and will go down to Rp30,000. They will follow you with their pony all the way, hoping that you will change your mind.

After climbing up 245 steps to the rim of the crater, there will be some locals selling drinks as well as flower to be sacrificed to the volcano. If you take his photo, he will insist that you buy something from him. We had our shower and checked out around 11:00am and drive towards Ijen. The road condition was fine except for the stretch from Sukosari to Sempol but we managed to arrive before dark and checked in to Catimor Homestay - Jl. Gajahmada 249 Jember, East Java, Indonesia (081336322343 ask for Awi). Highly recommended - room from Rp110,000 to Rp150,000. We started our trek to Ijen at 7:15pm and went down to the crater with the help of a local. The walk to the rim was 3km and another 900m steep descend to the bottom.

The first 3km walk was very pleasant, spotted monkeys, squirrels, birds and wild flowers along the way. Do exercise extra care while descending to the bottom of the crater as the terrain was steep and the ground unstable. But the trek was well worth it !!! The acid lake was absolutely pristine. With the sulpheric smoke and yellow flame, it was an out of this world experience !! Do bring a mask or towel to cover your nose and mouth as the smoke can be suffocating. Spent some time wondering around Sempol, Coffee plantation, Blawan Waterfall and the final day drive back to Surabaya for our flight home. The tax paid at the airport prior to our departure has increaed from Rp100,000 to Rp150,000.

We hire a car with driver which cost us Rp1,550,000 for 4 1/2 days excluding toll, petrol, parking fee, tips and driver’s meals. The only setback for our trip was our driver, who was reckless in his driving, demanding, dishonest, rude and inconsiderate. However, I’m sure he is the exception because all the other locals we met were polite, friendly, helpful and very pleasant.

Hope this is helpful for your planning. Overall my trip was a blast except for the driver who drives us crazy !! I will definately revisit East Java again, probably to climb Mt. Semeru.

Cheers………

Lix

?original post: http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g294228-i9251-k1730642-East_Java_Tour-Java.html

taken from http://www.acicis.murdoch.edu.au/hi/photos.html?

and from http://www.eastjava.com/tourism/index.html

this waterfall?near lawu - tawanmangu?

mosque in malang, but i dont know the name? any ideas? but it looks grand, hope we can pray in this mosque. Amek berkat sket, mana tau, kut kut jumpa kayak inneke koesherawati kat sini…kekekekeke.

somewhere near bromo….i think if we really have a time, i would like to have a tt session in one of the tea plantation area in malang. setuju ga ?

at bromo, “sedap mata memandang…heuehuehe”

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mount arjuna,?hopefully we?can get a clear sky like this

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al akbar mosque in surabaya, mao pergi ga ?

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this is something not related, but i just cant resist of putting it here, this is in tanah toraja, in sulawesi. bapak ali udah ke sini ga?

will update this entry from time to time. cya folks

itenaries - 6 days trip = 4 days off.

this is final. we have one more issue though. The flight ticket. arey says it might be cheaper if we go back via solo too.

I?have done?some?homework and below is the result:

rabu, 30/7/2008:6.55?am?to SOLO?- isnin, 4/8/2008?@ 8.35 am via surabaya

— KALU BOOK SEKARANG RM 335 SAHAJA — UPDATED 18/4/2008
and i really have to find out the people in 1st?team line up:

1. mas arey - confirmed
2. mas rem - confirmed
3. mas jamal - confirmed
4. mas ali - confirmed
5. mas jasni - confirmed
6. mas waje -?confirmed?- nanti nak beli beg dengan aku
7. mas zarril -?TIX DAH BELI BLOM?- dia la yg racun waj tak bleh pegi la….ada kelas
8. mas zani - bini dah bagi, tapi dia tak pasti la pulok
9. mas zarun - NIH NAK KUT KE DAK ? nak tanya tunang bagi ke tak?and sedikit info dari kawan gua

ok, so sesapa ada topeng ala-ala counter strike tuh, amatlah digalakkan membawanyer…bleh kita main paintball kat kawah ijen…”fire in the hole…”….kekekek

dr j, agak2 topeng sars bleh lepas ke?

INFO ON BROMO?

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this is taken from one comment in cari forum. http://forum3.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=326688&highlight=bromo

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ni nak tolong jawab mana yang tau lah ye. pernah ke surabaya, malang dan bromo ( semua jawa timur), tapi belum sampai lagi ke jogja (jawa tengah). sebab rasanya kalau nak ke jogja, better naik flight ke solo atau yang terbaru, ke jogja terus.

ok, pasal bromo, ia jauh dari surabaya..kena lalu kawasan banjir lumpur tu. so kalau nak tengok sunrise..pegi ke bromo petang, then overnight kat sana. ada banyak hotel kelas pertengahan ..murah2 juga. tapi kenalah sewa transport dari surabaya. then sewa jip, ada banyak..but better minta pihak hotel tu uruskan.

jip akan ambik kita kul 4 pagi..ikut lalun sand sea(lautan pasir)..terus naik bukit. so tunggulah sampai matahari terbit..memang sejuk sesangat.. tapi masa stay kat hotel tu..ramai orang datang jual glove, muffler, murah sesangat…so belilah..

lepas tu jip tu akan bawa ke pura..tempat dibahagian bawah. actually bromo ni ada 3 gunung, satu…dah mati..nampaklah dah ada rumput, 2 masih berasap..sentiasa berasap dan ke 3 meletup (mcm kentut aje) every 5 minutes. so??lepas tgk sunrise.. ke pura..di bawah ,..kat situ boleh sewa kuda atau jalan kaki untuk naik ke gunung yg sentiasa berasap ni. jalan kaki tu mmg susah le..sbb gunung kan. so memang selalu orang naik kuda. tapi still kita kena panjat tangga pulak lepas tu. so kat atas tu??tak ada apa..tgk gunung berasap tu le.. mcm tangkuban perahu kat bandung.

lps tu naik jip balik ke hotel. experience yang best, dapat tengok matahari terbit dengan 3 gunung…lalu sandsea dgn jip..then tunggang kuda panjat gunung…naik tangga yang curam..untuk lihat gunung berasap tu…

yang lain2 tak tau nak jawab..pasal shopping tu..tak boleh nak compare sebab tak pernah ke jogja..tp rasanya..BANDUNG is the BEST…..

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